Angelus-class Heavy Dreadnought
A bit new at this, so . . . here goes nothing. . . (I hope I did this right)Name/Type
Angelus-class Heavy Dreadnought
Designer/Manufacturer
Sanyo Custom Starship Construction Industries, LTD
Designation
Heavy Dreadnought"
Crew
700 naval personnel, pilots, and gunners
Length
1250 meters (?)
Hyperdrive
Class 0.9
Shield Rating
2000 SBD
Hull Rating
4500 RU
Speed
35 MGLT
Shield Strength
Superior to a Nebulon-B Frigate
Inferior to a Victory-class SD
Tractor Beams
14
Reactors
1x Crystallic Fusion Reactor
4x Standard Atlantean Fusion Reactor
1x 0.9 class Hyperdrive linked to an Atlantean Jump Computer
Weapons
Heavy Weapons
3x Heavy Coalescing Particle Beam Emitters
3x Heavy Magnetic Accelerator Cannons (Rail Guns)
1x "Planet-killer" deployable anti-ship weapon
Projectile Weapons
2x twin 16-inch projectile gun mounts
2x twin 10-inch projectile gun mounts
Light Weapons
10x quad laser cannons
25x twin 25mm AAA mounts
5x twin .50 caliber AAA mounts
7x twin 88mm AAA mounts
6x quad Vulcan mounts
14x culminating beam cannons
10x quad light rail gun mounts
Fighter Complement
20 starfighters
Troops
250 Atlantean Marines
Support Craft
2 shuttles
4 Light Transports
Cargo Space
200,000 Metric Tons with us of external racks
The Angelus was designed and built by Dak Sanyo (Ookami Kirayasha), InuYasha Sanyo's younger brother, as InuYasha's flagship, at the Sanyo Industries Dockyard. Using tech given to him by the Atlantean Empire (their home government), Sanyo built a ship capable of acting as a commerce raider and smuggling ship, but with enough speed and firepower to engage larger vessels. Her main reactor is a "Crystallic Fusion Reactor" in which anti-matter is introduced to the process and focused through a crystal matrix. This gives the reactor more power. She also has four Atlantean cutter reactors, which provide her auxiliary power, as well as normal power to her secondary systems and redundant backup functions. She cannot use her energy weapons or heavy rail guns when her main reactor is offline, since the power is needed to maintain her essential systems. Due to this problem, Sanyo deliberately made the Angelus's light weapons projectile based. Although this took up more cargo room, and made the danger of ignition greater, it allows the ship a defensive edge over most larger capital ships. Sanyo also improved the Angelus's maneuverability by installing maneuvering thrusters on her port, starboard, dorsal, and ventral hull. As an added boost in maneuverability, he also made her main engines reversable, enabling the Angelus to turn, almost literally, on a dime. (Remember Hunt for the Red October? Ramius increased the turning ability by reversing his starboard engine)
All weapons on the Angelus are linked to a fire-control AI (dedicated to that particular system), for increased targeting efficiency and accuracy.
(i.e. all light weapons are linked to a point-defense AI, all heavy weapons are linked to a heavy weapons AI, all projectile weapons are linked to a projectile weapons AI, and all of which can be linked to the ship's command AI)
TheAngelus first appears in "Dreams of Success, Dreams of Failure"
by InuYasha Sanyo.
http://therebelfaction.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9552
Comments
#23 8:22am 03/12/06
I'm definitely going to recommend this site to my friends in Anime Club. Some of them are serious Star Wars fans.
#22 4:27pm 02/12/06
No problems at all - if you have questions feel free to message any of us - I am always happy to help
#21 3:16pm 02/12/06
[QUOTE=Ithron]You have two lengths....does it contract so you can parallel park it easier? *grin*[/QUOTE]
No it doesn't, although that wouldn't be a bad idea.
#20 7:43pm 01/12/06
Thank you. I thank all of you . . . really, I do.
#19 6:31pm 01/12/06
HAH! At least you have taken the criticism in good stride - -that is hurrdle number one. Congratulations
#18 5:47pm 01/12/06
In technical circles, we call that an "oops"
#17 11:51am 01/12/06
[QUOTE]Length
750 meters
Hyperdrive
Class 0.9
Shield Rating
2000 SBD
Hull Rating
4500 RU
Length
1250 meters (?)[/QUOTE]
You have two lengths....does it contract so you can parallel park it easier? *grin*
Looks interesting, although I can't really pass an opinion - I'm a lurker when it comes to R&D. Just thought i'd mention the typo. Good luck.
#16 8:17am 01/12/06
Oh, I edited my original R&D post to reflect the most recent changes.
#15 7:51am 01/12/06
I hope this will correct some of the disputes.
Length: 1250 meters (?)
Hyperdrive: Class 0.9
Speed: 35 MGLT
Shield Strength: Superior to a Nebulon-B Frigate
Inferior to a Victory-class SD
Tractor Beams: 14
Reactors: 1x Crystallic Fusion Reactor
4x Standard Atlantean Fusion Reactor
1x 0.9 class Hyperdrive linked to an Atlantean Jump Computer
[U]Weapons[/U]
[B]Heavy Weapons[/B]
3x Heavy Coalescing Particle Beam Emitters
3x Heavy Magnetic Accelerator Cannons (Rail Guns)
1x "Planet-killer" deployable anti-ship weapon
[B]Projectile Weapons[/B]
2x twin 16-inch projectile gun mounts
2x twin 10-inch repeating cannons
[B]Light Weapons[/B]
10x quad laser cannons
25x twin 25mm AAA mounts
5x twin .50 caliber AAA mounts
7 twin 88mm AAA mounts
6 quad Vulcan mounts
14 culminating beam cannons
10x quad heavy repeaters
The Particle Beams on the [I]Angelus[/I] are capable of punching through the shields and hull of an Imperial frigate, destroyer ([I]NOT[/I] a Star Destroyer!), or corvette.
NOTES: The term "Atlantean" refers to any tech manufactured by the Atlantean Empire, Ookami Jasaica's people, who predate even the Old Republic. I will try to add them into the Planets list (there really should be a governments list). Please contact me for details.
Atlantean fusion reactors produce the about 1/4 the output of one on a Mon Cal Frigate, but are about 4x smaller. This gives the [I]Angelus[/I] enough power to operate at minimum levels, but make her energy weapons and rail guns completely useless, as they consume to much power to charge and fire. In emergencies she relies on her myriad of projectile weapons to provide enough cover fire to escape.
This ship would be used in Fleet Actions, but the "Planet-killer" is only a last-ditch weapon, used in a desperate attempt to escape.
Again, I'll try to have a description of Atlantean Technology for anyone with questions. I'll even submit it to R&D if necessary.
Thanks for all your comments. I hope I smoothed some feathers in here.
#14 6:28am 01/12/06
Frigates are faster than Destroyers as Destroyers are ships of the line. FYI
#13 1:13am 01/12/06
Nice concept. I'm with Kraken for the most part, at least in terms of philosophy. Going along with the idea of possible consolidation of weaponry, might I suggest combining the heavy repeaters, heavy repeating blasters, and chainguns conceptually, and possibly use the [URL=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Z-6_rotary_blaster_cannon]Z-6 Rotary Cannon[/URL]? On a starship in space, the weakness listed in the link wouldn't exist, and it gives the best of both worlds in terms of repeating weapons and chainguns. Just an idea though. I look forward to seeing it in a rp.
#12 7:57pm 30/11/06
Well let's take an in-depth look here, if it's not to be a storyline vessel.
First, the basics:
Speed: slower than a frigate, faster than a destroyer. I suggest a speed of 20 MGLT should suffice. This is a bit on the fast side for a ship this size, but the vessel does have realtivley weak protection.
Protection: A bit low for a ship this size, but they should suffice.
Armament: Oh boy. 1 super-heavy weapon, 12 heavy weapons, and 206 light weapons by my count. Quite a bit of hull space would be needed to mount these weapons, they would literally dot your hull all over.
My suggestions for armament, if I were making this R&D:
heavy weapons look ok, so long as they are full explained and not overpowered.
Light weaponry, let's trim this up a bit. If nothing else, we can reduce the number of hull mounts by grouping these weapons together. For example:
40 Laser Cannons = 10 Quad Laser Cannons
50 25mm AA guns = 25 Twin 25mm AA guns
And so on.
But personally I don't see the point of the wide variety of light weaponry you have. Some are for anti-fighter, anti-missile, and anti-infantry, but we could do without so much.
Again, this is just my advice, in case this ship is not a storyline vessel
#11 7:21pm 30/11/06
A couple notes...
[QUOTE=Telan]The following is a paid announcement from TRF's resident Naval combat master.[/QUOTE]
Yes, certianly one of many.
[QUOTE]The ISD has a 1.5 which is extremely fast for a battleship - she masses more than most. A frigate or cruiser could get that but a heavy cruiser could not - perhaps 1.0 at best.[/QUOTE]
There is no logical explanation to suit the above statement. A body with more mass then another would certianly require more force to begin movement then say a smaller, hypothetical mass. However; this has no application in reality because we're discussing Hyperspace and there are multiple 'heavy' starship classifications in the TRF galaxy that boast higher speed ratings.
The better recourse would be to simply note the uber-ness of this R&D and suggest a reduction in the area of velocity to accomodate for the considerable advances aboard this vessle.
[QUOTE=Wes]If it's not a storyline ship, it seems quite a bit overarmed.[/QUOTE]
If it's not a storyline ship then, as a Moderator, I am going to suggest a Vito on this R&D submission; it is too 'uber' all around and will, most assuredly, cause In Character and Out Of Character conflicts which will, doubtless, require Staff intervention.
[QUOTE=Wes]If you need a reason that I'm a bit concerned, go take a look at the Hunters and Gatherers OOC thread. That's what happens when someone writes what certain people believe to be an uber R&D and then appear to play it as an uber R&D.[/QUOTE]
Let's not cite examples, shall we? The above comment has the distinct tone of a jibe, insult or slight to one or more of the parties involved in the above mentioned debacle which, at this point, is totally unnessescary. And I'll pretend I don't know what you're getting at. Keep this convorsation on topic and related to the subject matter contained within it. Thank you.
To the Author:
My suggestions are as follows; 1) Turn this into a Storyline ship (in which case the R&D is hardly a requirment but Kudos all the same) and avoid having to defend this ship in its every use or B) Start again working from the ground up - there are countless members at TRF who would be only to happy to help you learn your way around our R&D 'system' and some of them will even be nice about it.
Good luck.
#10 5:25pm 30/11/06
The following is a paid announcement from TRF's resident Naval combat master.
For a ship to be boasting the types of weapons it does along with rather massive reactors to feed a rpimary weapon, your crew compliment is going to number severeal thousand - the Dreadnaught-class Heavy Cruiser, the type which made the Katana Fleet, required a crew of over six thousand. Even fully slave-rigged, it still required 2,000 - and those were only 600m craft.
And no on the hyperdirve. Period. The ISD has a 1.5 which is extremely fast for a battleship - she masses more than most. A frigate or cruiser could get that but a heavy cruiser could not - perhaps 1.0 at best. Given the weapons compliment of this ship, your multiplier is going to be a bit more - perhaps if agreed could be pushed to .9 but that is asking alot. Is it a ship of the line or a pursuit craft? It cannot be both.
Weapons - we need explanations on most. If I read it correctly it has projectile weapons and chaff/FLaK type anti-fighter defenses. Allowable but then you have to fact in a great deal of space for the sotrage of round thusly removing the twenty fighters you want stowed. An original Dreadnaught only had twelve - so I would say one squadron is permissible here but that kills your space for shuttles and drop ships etc. A few FLaK guns are excellent as the Empire uses on its ships, but our primary weapons are case charged Turbolasers - the plasma cases are reused so we do not have to store many. You also have magazines now that can explode with even the slightest bump.
" Her heavy coalescing particle cannons enable her to punch through the shields [i]and[/i] hull of most Imperial warships"
Umm...no. Imperial ships have a plethora of designs as we span a great deal of the galaxy but let me focus only on my expertise - battleships. Imperial warshi[ps such as the Imperial V and the Conqueror-class SD had very thick armor where the Aurora-class (Fast) SD has thin armor but powerful shields. One cannon - let alone a 750m craft, would not have a prayer of punching through both at once at the outset of an engagement when both shields and armored carapace are in tact.
10x a normal SD????? The Star Destroyer uses a solar ionization reactor which takes up a good fifth of the ship's internal space and runs for over 1000m from a dreadnaughts length aft of the bow to the stern. A ship that small doesnt have the ability to match an SDs energy output - or useage. One of the guides said a single SD puts out enough energy during one hyperspace jump to power a human city of a million for a week. (((something of that nature)))
In order for you yo have even close to the output of an SD with a 750m craft would have it be a flying reactor with no guns armor or anything save one cabin and a controol booth - period.
Note - such a ship with such a powerful reactor could not route its power towards any system because it would fry said system in the blink of an eye.
24 tractor beam projectors?????? Another massive emplacement - the ISD II only has 10!
#9 3:02pm 30/11/06
If it's not a storyline ship, it seems quite a bit overarmed. Unless it's a dedicated capital-ship killer, neither the reactor nor the ship itself would be large enough to have this many weapons. Think about it logically - it's a 750 meter ship with 216 weapons, some of them quite large. Unless this ship has no sensors, few shields, low speed, no armor, etc, it is unlikely that that many weapons could actually fit onto a ship.
However, such is not the case. The ship also carries starfighters, shuttles, and transports, has an extraordinary shield rate, is very fast, great armor, etc.
Perhaps it's just that I wouldn't want to face such a ship - It'd be like facing a small, fast Super Star Destroyer. Potentially interesting development, and everything is dependant on how the ship is RPed, but there is some cause for concern with the design now, at least in my mind.
Edit: If you need a reason that I'm a bit concerned, go take a look at the Hunters and Gatherers OOC thread. That's what happens when someone writes what certain people believe to be an uber R&D and then appear to play it as an uber R&D. It got very much out of hand and eventually had to be closed by the administration. Not something you want to go through, trust me.
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