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Saber Class Fast Attack Cruiser




Type: Fast Attack Cruiser/Fleet Raider

Length: 70 Meters

Weapons: 4 Heavy Turbolasers (foreword facing fixed mount fire linked)
1 Class 2 Proton Torpedo Launcher (5 Torpedoes Equipped)
6 point defense laser cannons

Shields: 400 SBD

Armor: 400 RU

Crew: Minimum 15, Recommended 35, Maximum 40 + 3 astromech droids
(5 bridge officers, 5 torpedo loaders, 15 maintenance/damage control personnel, 10 security guards)

Top Speed: 35 MGLT

Hyperdrive: x1

Troop Capacity: none

Cargo Capacity: 5 Metric Tons

Support craft:
In hangarbay: one small shuttle
In external sockets: 1 Squadron

Passengers: 5

Other systems: Smart Comp, HLS Phantom Generator, QETS, repulsorlift

General Information:
The Saber Class Cruiser was designed to be the best anti capital ship weapon in the Commonwealth Navy. Using its combination of speed, agility, and heavy weapons, it can easily overwhelm the defenses of similarly sized ships.

Explanations:

Class 2 Proton Torpedo Launcher
It is essentially a starship mounted torpedo launcher made to fire proton torpedoes that are 2 meters long and 1 meter in diameter, approximately 2 are required to take out a hard point on a ship. It takes about 10 seconds to reload an only one can be fired at a time.

The Heavy Turbolasers
First of all, each turbolaser has its own power generator. To maintain maximum efficiency and the lowest recharge time, it was decided to have the turbolasers fixed in one direction. Instead the maneuverability of the ship will compensate for this drawback. The turbolasers are able to fire 5 times, but then require 10 seconds to recharge. The ship can also provide continuous fire for up to five minutes at a rate of 2 shots per second, after the five minutes is up they must stop to recharge. Also, to protect against fighters, it is fully capable of flakbursting.

Engine Placement
The main ion engines are placed on the sides to take advantage of leverage as much as possible. There are also smaller ion engines on the front of the main ones to aid in turning and breaking maneuvers, as well as a plentiful abundance of variable geometry maneuvering thrusters strategically placed along the ship’s hull.

Smart Comp
This is just an advanced version of a normal ship’s computer, it coordinates the efforts of all repair droids throughout the ship, sends sensor and navigational data, and, shield and system status to friendly units. Because navigational data is shared, the ship is able to plot microjumps within a solar system as long as a friendly ship equipped with a smart comp is in the desdination area. To preclude the possibility of jamming, all communications are routed through the QETS system, except when using traditional methods are required.

Hull Armor
It is made up a Kevlar like material, bonded together at the molecular level with Ulithium, and coated with blaster and laser resistant materials to provide exceptional energy distribution and projectile resistance, all in a lightweight package.

HLS Phantom Generator
Another, innovative design made possible by Commonwealth scientists, this system can disguise a ship as almost anything by using Hard Light projectors dispersed along the ship’s hull. Because Hard Light holograms read on sensors as real matter, the ship can assume the shape of any preprogrammed designs like asteroids or other ships. It can also assume the shape of anything not in the database if it can get a full sensor sweep of it. Also, multiple systems can be networked together to disguise multiple ships, or to create larger disguises. Theoretically with enough ships, a hologram the size of a super star destroyer can be created.

Backup Power System
In case main power went offline SFA power recievers have been installed to the chances of survivability when heavly damaged

Comments

#38 2:28am 06/10/06

The Defender System IS my idea. So was the ACHERON SYSTEM. I designed them both. I am also Kamon Vondiranach, former leader of the Tholatin Republic. The Acheron system was designed by me and implimented on the more recent of the TTR designs. Therefore it IS mine.

And it IS logical that someone would come up with exactly the same thing. This is a HUGE galaxy, someone's going to do that. And besides, I still don't think he stole your tech and I think you should let him have it.

#37 2:25am 06/10/06

first of all when i wrote this R&D i had never heard of the KIBC until you started saying that stole your tech, then and only then, did i start looking through your R&D's to see if in fact if it was similar, but i do admit i probably did click on a couple of your R&D's before that because i was looking for shield and hull stats in relation to ship length

and the only reason i mentioned the flakbursting thing is because i didnt want it to sound almost completely helpless against fighters, and i only remembered it because i used to read about it and other stuff like it in the [U][B]NIF DATABASE[/B][/U] not your R&D's

#36 2:24am 06/10/06

You have to show me proof to counter my latter points.

[QUOTE]It falls to the simple matter that the idea is a SIMPLE concept. Other people would be able to figure it out. So, that being said, it would show up again somewhere because there are many smart people out there and many people have a tendency to think alike. It's only a matter of time before someone else comes out with something similar.[/QUOTE]

I would disagree, and moreover, that's yet another opinion without any proof or backing. To be sure, people are going to come up with similar ideas, and I'm fine with that. But ideas that are exactly the same? That's a no go, and a violiation of intellectual property. Moreover, I think that idea itself is actually fairly complex.

[QUOTE]If someone else comes out with a new Defender System I won't complain. It's an excellent idea to have in a ship so why not allow it? It's bound to happen sometime. All it is is a computer virus.[/QUOTE]

It's also not your idea according to yourself either. R&D ideas that give groups unique advantages take time, effort, and a lot of thinking in real life. Simply copying it is taking that time and work for granted. More or less, exact R&Ds like the KIBC are a little too complicated that everything is going to be exactly the same. If that was simply the case, what's to stop me from copying the QETS then?

#35 2:14am 06/10/06

I'm arguing because I think it would be good to include in this R&D and I think he should be allowed to have it.

It falls to the simple matter that the idea is a SIMPLE concept. Other people would be able to figure it out. So, that being said, it would show up again somewhere because there are many smart people out there and many people have a tendency to think alike. It's only a matter of time before someone else comes out with something similar.

If someone else comes out with a new Defender System I won't complain. It's an excellent idea to have in a ship so why not allow it? It's bound to happen sometime. All it is is a computer virus.

#34 2:10am 06/10/06

[QUOTE]I have countered you, constantly. My questions have countered you. You are like Meno and I Aristotle.[/QUOTE]

Aside from the Aristotle reference, I would agree with you actually. But in that last statement, you have then contradicted yourself in saying that agrument was baseless since apparently I can defend it.

[QUOTE]By the way, the Defender System is very similar to an old GC used idea. It was on some TTR ships and was designed by myself. It's a rather simple idea and easily done. Same with this. It's simple. It would, could, and should pop up somewhere else.[/QUOTE]

It's fine if you made the Defender system similar to the old GC system. Similar is the key. An exact copy is not good; if he can make a system similar to mine that is not a copy of the idea and get the same results, fine, by all means go for it. But if the only thing that's different is the replacing the typical comm array with a QETS, that's far too close; the QETS system wouldn't even effect the operation of the hardware with or without it if the ship also had standard communications.

[QUOTE]I don't believe that evn copied you and I think you should stop whining.[/QUOTE]

Back that up with proof. Moreover, since it's already been removed, I suggest you stop arguing as well, since it is pointless.

#33 2:02am 06/10/06

I have countered you, constantly. My questions have countered you. You are like Meno and I Aristotle.

By the way, the Defender System is very similar to an old GC used idea. It was on some TTR ships and was designed by myself. It's a rather simple idea and easily done. Same with this. It's simple. It would, could, and should pop up somewhere else. I don't believe that evn copied you and I think you should stop whining.

#32 1:58am 06/10/06

[QUOTE]I see. So since something similar pops up you automatically assume he saw yours and copied it for himself? This is a big galaxy we RP in. People are bound to come up with similar ideas. [/QUOTE]

I disagree. And I know he's seen my threads because I've seen him on "Who's online" looking at them. And there's still another reference to an idea only mentioned in my R&D threads thus far on TRF: the ability for weapons to flak-burst. Granted, its canon technology, but no-one else has mentioned or used it except for myself and Kach, who copied the move in "Baptism of Fire".

I could care less if he comes up with a similar technology that does the same thing as long as it worked differently. In this case, it did not; it was exactly the same thing simply mentioned in different words.

[QUOTE]Here's an IRL point. Russia and the US in the cold war. One developes something, another one comes out with it real quick. Did Russia copy off of us? Probably not. They just happened to develop it right after us. (unless I'm mistaken, and by 'it' I mean the A-bomb)[/QUOTE]

The A-bomb was an idea that originated in Nazu Germany and made its way to the international community where it was further developed by scientists of both countries. So no, they did not copy the US in that respect; instead, we both copied Germany.

Perhaps you've heard of the Concordski? That was the Russian copy of the Concord. And yes, they actually stole the Concord designs out of France to make it. ANother example would be the[URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-4]Tu-4[/URL].

[QUOTE]Your argument is baseless.[/QUOTE]

If my argument has been baseless, why have you not be able to effectively counter any of my points thus far?

#31 1:35am 06/10/06

I see. So since something similar pops up you automatically assume he saw yours and copied it for himself? This is a big galaxy we RP in. People are bound to come up with similar ideas.

Here's an IRL point. Russia and the US in the cold war. One developes something, another one comes out with it real quick. Did Russia copy off of us? Probably not. They just happened to develop it right after us. (unless I'm mistaken, and by 'it' I mean the A-bomb)

Your argument is baseless.

#30 1:30am 06/10/06

That would be the point.

Copying other people's technology without a valid IC reason shouldn't exist. That's akin to saying that because CTI developed the "Defender system" used on the Lance-class Gunship or the QETS system used by VC, everyone now has instant access to use that technology on any of their ships.

In a very real sense, an exact, unique R&D idea is that person's property (intellectual property). It's a no-no to simply slap it on your R&D simply because it's a system that you want.

#29 1:21am 06/10/06

You have yet to see someone else do it, but then when someone does you slap them in the face and then say they stole your idea?

#28 1:20am 06/10/06

How is it alike to slave rigging a ship?

Their is no one KDF ship that controls the actions of another ship. The KIBC does not do that. Each ship more or less acts as a homing beacon to other ships of the fleet if they want to. I have yet to see anyone else come up with that. The closest thing would be the Chiss guidance beacons employed on some of their starships to help guide other ships through hyperspace.

#27 1:07am 06/10/06

Not that unique. I don't see what the big stink is. It's like a slave drive if you think about it. One ship plots the coordinates and off they all go.

#26 1:05am 06/10/06

...

That's actually TNO.

Kashan ships can only make jumps to other KDF units, such as fighters, capital ships, stations, etc because the Kashan ships act sort of like homing beacons by providing their sensor navigation data. That's what's unique to Kashan.

#25 12:22am 06/10/06

The idea of using a super computer to coordinate and plot a micro-jump is unique to Kashan?

#24 11:33pm 05/10/06

There wouldn't be if he developed his own method of making the jump. The problem was that it did it in exactly the same method/manner as the KIBC; and that is pretty much an idea unique to Kashan.

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