Executor III ('Super Star Destroyer')
[size=4]The Executor Mark III Command Ship
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<o:p> </o:p>Craft: Executor Mark III Command Ship
A.K.A: Super Star Destroyer
Combat Abbreviation: ECD
<st1:place w:st="on">Mission</st1:place> Profile: Combat Command
Retail Price: Not available for sale. Produced exclusively for the New Order.
Length Over All: 12 800 meters
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First unleashed shortly before the Battle of Hoth, the Executor Class Command Ship (or ‘Super Star Destroyer’) has long been the ultimate symbol of the Empire’s dominance over the rest of the galaxy. Even with the introduction of the larger Sovereign and Eclipse lines, the Executor remains the hallmark of Imperial engineering pride and naval supremacy.
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Following the destruction of the original Executor at the Battle of Endor, and the design of the Eclipse Class Command Ships, and due to the newly limited wealth of the Empire during this period, Imperial designers scaled back the size of the Executor to 70% her former size, effectively creating an intermediate flagship smaller and more practical than the Eclipse or Sovereign. These new ships, Executor Mark II designs, were prevalent in the period between the Battle of Endor and the incursion of the Yuuzhan Vong, and repaired many of the faults of the original Executor, adding dedicated shield generators and auxiliary command stations prevent a repeat of the Endor disaster. They also cut back on crew requirements (due to decreased recruitment post-Endor) and increasing starfighter capacity. The Executor II design was deployed by various Imperial warlords, and citizens of the galaxy will recognize the names Guardian, Knight Hammer, and Razor's Kiss as members of this class of ship. Kuat Drive Yards even continued to build Executor IIs during the rise of the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placename w:st="on">New</st1:placename> <st1:placetype w:st="on">Republic</st1:placetype></st1:place>.
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With the reinvigoration of the New Order under former Grand Admiral Hyfe (now Regent) and the present Grand Marshall Simon Kaine, Imperial designers decided to once again reinvent the Executor. The Venerator design had met with huge success, but even those collosal vessels could not command respect the way the Executor had.
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This new 'Super Star Destroyer' is mamoth, stretching 12 800 meters from bow to stern, twice the size of the Venerator. Despite her massive size, the Executor III remains shorter and thinner than the Regent's flagship, so as not to overshadow that vessel. The Mark III incorporates the best of Imperial technology and is one of the most powerful - and rarest - vessels in the galaxy. Only one such craft is known to exist, and due to the massive funds and resources neccessary in their construction, it is suspected that at this point no more are scheduled to be built.
Designed specifically for operational command and long term deployment, the Executor III is, like her namesake, heavily armed and armoured and able to operate without support in the most hostile of territory for long periods of time. Of all the ships in the Imperial Navy, only the Ebony Vigilance more feared. The Mark III caries entire wings of starfighters and ground regiments, giving it the capability to literally conquer entire enemy star systems or colonize a small region of space singlehandidly.
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The first of these mamoth command ships was built at the Kuat Drive Yards under the name Executor III. It was later presented to Grand Moff Bhindi Drayson at her promotion and renamed the Acheron. This only example of the finest ship in the Empire currently ports at Yaga Minor as the flagvessel of the Black Fleet.
Comments
#30 6:09pm 03/02/05
Yes, a TRF timeline will be posted in the near future.
#29 2:51am 03/02/05
Oh now I get it now that I didn't know this before. Thanks for clearing it up.
#28 2:50am 03/02/05
Suffice to say, we have altered actual star wars canon events here. The two most important ones are that:
A) The Yuuzhan Vong were stopped at Coruscant (Star by Star)
and
B) Some worlds which were destroyed canonly are not destroyed TRFly.
#27 2:01am 03/02/05
No she didn't. If you know about Dark Empire comic book you would know Byss is destroyed when Galaxy Gun fired accidently a missile at it and destroyed it when Eclipse II rammed it.
#26 1:32am 03/02/05
Did your mother drop you on your head as a baby?
#25 8:44pm 02/02/05
Are you talking about Byss, Emperor Palpatine throneworld which it is destroyed and i bet TRF takes alot after it was destroyed, right?
#24 6:16pm 02/02/05
I'm well aware of that, Titus. As I've said, we're a sensible group. We know how to play under rules that are based on common sense. But I should mention a couple things, which I'm sure you both already know but need to be taken into account.
TNO is more than simply a large group. Based on 'non-tangible' assets, it's easily one of the richest and certainly the most capable, facility wise, to construct ships. We control Kuat, Bilbringi, Fondor, and Sluis Van, Corellia, and Yaga Minor: seven of the largest ship manufacturing planets in the galaxy. We control J't'p'tan and N'zoth (and by extension the entire Farlax sector), and have enslaved the Yevetha. We control Kamino, the largest cloning facility in the galaxy, and Wayland, with its massive cloning facilities. We control Khomm and Byss, both with cloning facilities turned to our uses. We control Carida, home of the largest Imperial training centre in the galaxy, and have established similar centres on Averam and Alaskan. We control Thyferra, one of the richest planets in the galaxy. We own entire trade routes - the Corellian Run, the Rimma Trade Route... We control Duro, one of the most technologically advanced planets in the galaxy. We control Eriadu, Balmorra, and Sullust - all major manufacturing worlds.
Added to that is the fact that TNO is, in essence, a military. That's our primary focus - the strength of our military. We use clone soldiers for a majority of applications, and Yevetha slaves for much of our construction. In addition to massive recruitment, of course.
None of this means that TNO can effortlessly support a dozen SSDs, obviously. And I'm not trying to argue that point. I'm simply saying that TNO is capable of building and mantaining a couple large ships. I'm well aware there are concessions involved in doing so. But it is possible.
#23 4:15pm 02/02/05
[QUOTE]She was a consort of Tarkin[/QUOTE]
Which, under the new roolz, would work just fine. Shut up.
#22 1:13pm 02/02/05
Demos, we're not looking at upkeeping the ship, we're looking at the resource drain it would place upon your group to build it. If you want it, remember that you'll have to have significantly less in the way of support craft in the future...
#21 7:47am 02/02/05
It's my belief that Zsinj was not a Warlord from the Bumfuck Brigade on Fuckoine, but rather a member of the Empire who made a charge for the vacant seat of power. Wrong?
And, uh, Daala is a terrible example. She was a consort of Tarkin... she had access to whatever she wanted. Not even mentioning her mission WAS to build big stuff, so obviously her building big stuff is not at all spectacular; it's routine.
And I wasn't comparing Karde to you... more comparing Karde to Zsinj. Neither of them had to build their shit; it was just there. In your case, you would need to build yours, with a fraction of the resources that Daala or Issard had. In that case, comparisons to karde aren't that outrageous; he didn't have the resources to build up massive command vessels, and considering the size of your "sub-group", neither do you.
#20 6:40am 02/02/05
The new rules are in essence a lack of rules, really.
But Ahnk. Saying that Zsinj is not a good example is ridiculous. He mantained a Super Star Destroyer. We're debating the logistics of mantaining a Super Star Destroyer here.
No, he didn't build it. But he did mantain it. He did lead it into battle. He did pay to repair it. And he (we can speculate) had the finances to similarly mantain a second ship of the same size. Plus several Imperator Star Destroyers and other support ships. He was not a member of the Empire - in fact the Empire collaborated with Han Solo to destroy Zsinj.
Zsinj is a walord with a fraction the resources of the New Order. If he can mantain two Super Star Destroyers, TNO certainly can (in addition to other fleet assets).
But let's look at another example. The construction of the [i]Night Hammer[/i] by an Imperial Warlord. In addition to the rest of his fleet. Admiral Daala's mantinence of said SSD, plus a massive support fleet: some 17 ISDs and 100+ VSDs. All with an 'Empire' a fraction the size of TNO.
[QUOTE]We look at Tallon Karde... he's a similar case, with 0-1 planets maintaining a small fleet. It's not really practical but it does happen.[/QUOTE]
If comparing Imperial Warlords to Empires is ridiculous, than comparing Smugglers to Empires is just downright ludicrous. I don't see your point. Karrde can't support a Super Star Destroyer? Well, that's nice if I ever said TNO was a smuggling organization with 0 planets. But it's a galaxy spanning Empire encompassing 92 worlds.
#19 5:38am 02/02/05
Still against. Your examples- comparing warlords to Empires - are as big a stretch as your comparisons of athletes to doctors; completely rediculous.
Warlord Zsinj is not a good example. He was part of the Empire, if I remember, and merely took one of their ships as his own. He didn't build it; he didn't maintain it, he didn't lead it into battle and pay to repair it. He just had it. My history might be fuzzy, but regardless. We look at Tallon Karde... he's a similar case, with 0-1 planets maintaining a small fleet. It's not really practical but it does happen.
But there is a difference between small fleet and fleet + 12 km command ship.
[quote]Trust me when I say TNO is more than quallified to moderate itself in this regard.[/quote]
You know, Drayson, it's nice of you to say that, but if everyone could trust everyone to be reasonable we wouldn't need rules.
#18 5:11am 02/02/05
[QUOTE=Master Ahnk]If we say that commanders can have big ships, that opens a big door of questionability. Shall every commander? Will Gevel and Kraken get one of these, while Kaine flies around in his Eclipse? Shall I give Kal Shora his namesake back? Will Grevious give each of his aliases a Soveirgn Destroyer?[/QUOTE]
No. There's a line between what may happen and rabid hyperbole. You've crossed that line. I understand where you're coming from, but I should mention that a) it's not in Theren's character to command a Super Star Destroyer and b) Kraken does not warrant an SSD. And Kaine doesn't fly an Eclipse. Hyfe does.
Giving Kal Shora his 60 000 meter whatever it was would be fine, imo, considering it's history. IIRC, it was a self supporting world ship type vessel, no? And no, Grevious has more sense than to dole out SoSSDs like candy.
Which is exactly what the new rules are based on - common sense. What you're doing looks to me like saying "Okay, use common sense. But first we're going to lay down a bunch of restrictions based on hyperbole of what happens if someone doesn't have common sense. Using nonsensible arguments to defend a rule based on our common sense does little, if you ask me.
[QUOTE] That SSD of yours would easily eat up almost all of your protectorates resources and manpower after red tape. [/QUOTE]
Again, I can quote several examples of groups mantaining Super Star Destroyers with a smaller asset base than the Ubiqtorate alone, never mind TNO. Warlord Zsing is a good one, because without a single planet under his control per say (i.e. in the manner TRF controls planets), he managed to support an SSD plus support ships. His move to steal another one implies he had the basis to support two. That Kuat Drive Yards could build an SSD without the financial backing of the Empire also implies that it is feasible for TNO as we stand to produce and mantain a small number. Likewise, Ysanne Isard was able to mantain a Super Star Destroyer with only one planet under her control. Granted, she didn't build the ship, but that still speaks about the requirements to sustain such a ship.
[QUOTE]Throwingit into a "death fleet", which I assume contains plenty of other large vessels, while fine and dandy, doesn't take into account that you still have an Eclipse hanging around.[/QUOTE]
Six ISDs and applicable starfighters, yes. But again, we've seen what small Empires can sustain in terms of fleets.
[QUOTE]If we give you your big ship, how are we supposed to say no when every admiral wants one? If every protectorate owner or fleet commander can now have a ship over 12 km, the point of the new rules (getting away from "haha mines bigger die fag") will be completely useless.[/QUOTE]
No, because you're exagerating the situation. The entire point of the new rule set was to let common sense reign. You're going back on that by telling people what they can and cannot have. You're quoting a hypothetical situation that isn't possible under the rules. Because TNO has enough sense not to do something that stupid. If Kraken wants an SSD, then he can make that decision. Obviously it means that he needs to up the size of his Protectorate and rethink his fleet, and at this stage it isn't possible.
Trust me when I say TNO is more than quallified to moderate itself in this regard.
#17 4:57am 02/02/05
I do have a problem.
If we say that commanders can have big ships, that opens a big door of questionability. Shall every commander? Will Gevel and Kraken get one of these, while Kaine flies around in his Eclipse? Shall I give Kal Shora his namesake back? Will Grevious give each of his aliases a Soveirgn Destroyer?
That SSD of yours would easily eat up almost all of your protectorates resources and manpower after red tape. Throwing it into a "death fleet", which I assume contains plenty of other large vessels, while fine and dandy, doesn't take into account that you still have an Eclipse hanging around. None of this begins to touch on the fact that each of your worlds doubtless still maintains defenses and sector fleets, plus your other protectorate's fleets, and their no doubt impressive command vessels.
If we give you your big ship, how are we supposed to say no when every admiral wants one? If every protectorate owner or fleet commander can now have a ship over 12 km, the point of the new rules (getting away from "haha mines bigger die fag") will be completely useless.
I'm standing pat on no.
#16 4:25am 02/02/05
I'm sure with half our members being on the staff TNO can self moderate pretty well... ;)
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