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1  9:52pm 19/05/04        
Blink If You Can Hear Me
Bush Declines to Condemn Israeli Attack
By BARRY SCHWEID, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) on Wednesday declined to condemn the deadly attack on Palestinian demonstrators by Israeli military forces, saying he wanted to get "clarification" of the incident from Israeli officials.

The president urged Palestinians and Israel for "restraint," as the White House and the U.S. ambassador to Israel asked Israel for an explanation for the attack, which killed at least 10 Palestinians, all children and teens.

"I continue to urge restraint," Bush told reporters following a Cabinet meeting in the Roosevelt Room. "It is essential that people respect innocent life in order for us to achieve peace."

Israel's military acknowledged that soldiers fired four tank shells, a missile and machine guns to stop 3,000 Palestinian demonstrators it said were heading toward a battle zone in the Gaza Strip (news - web sites). The demonstrators in Rafah, Gaza Strip, were protesting against the Israeli invasion of a neighboring refugee camp.

Bush pointedly refused to criticize the attack.

"We'll get clarification from the government," Bush said more than five hours after the attack. "I haven't had a chance to speak to the government."

Bush said he expected to be briefed on the attack, but he insisted: "I'll continue to speak out about the need for all parties to respect innocent life in the Middle East."

The president's remarks came a day after he softened its criticism of Israel's tactics in Gaza aimed at stopping the smuggling of weapons to Palestinian terror groups.

Earlier Wednesday, in a measured response, the White House called on Israel to provide facts about the incident. In Tel Aviv, U.S. Ambassador Daniel Kurtzer asked Israeli officials for an explanation.

"We are very concerned about reports from Gaza and the number of Palestinians who are said to be injured and killed," White House press secretary Scott McClellan told reporters. "We've asked for the government of Israel for the facts about what happened today. We continue to follow this closely. We urge all parties to exercise maximum restraint."

Associated Press Television News footage showed a large explosion going off in a crowd of demonstrators, followed by Palestinians carrying the wounded — including children and teenagers — from the smoky scene.

"We are asking them for more information," McClellan said. "I don't have any more to report at this point. We're trying to find out more about the facts about what happened. ... Let's find out more about the facts."

A senior administration official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said later that the White House's measured response was due to the fact that early reports from such violence is often wrong.

The explosion came a day after the Bush administration softened its criticism of Israel's tactics in Gaza aimed at stopping the smuggling of weapons to Palestinian terror groups.

"We understand their explanation, but we still find the violence troubling," McClellan said amid international accusations that Israel was intentionally destroying the homes of innocent Palestinians.

President Bush on Tuesday affirmed Israel's right to defend itself and called on Palestinians to renounce violence and to reject failed leaders.

In a speech to the pro-Israel lobby American Israel Public Affairs Committee, Bush said, "The United States is strongly committed — and I am strongly committed — to the security of Israel as a vibrant Jewish state."

At the same time, Bush said he was committed to helping the Palestinians to establish a viable, democratic state. However, the president said, "Israel needs a truly responsible partner in achieving peace."

On CNN, the Isreali position was that "the missles were fired intoan empty area" but "unfortunatly people were caught in the explosion". Well, if you fire a missle and people are caught in the explosion, it's not that empty of an area then, is it?

I don't understand why the "war on terrorism" hasn't turned around and invaded Isreal yet.

Probably because they're white.
OS: In a world of bon-bons, you are a twinkie.
Ahnk: God damn you, I am Count Chocula and you know it.
I'm not spending my anniversary night thumping my head against the wall. - Damalis, on Moderating TRF
Then tell him you want it harder, damnit! - Ahnk, on Damalis
2  10:09pm 19/05/04        
Return of the King of the Cafe!
Hm, I can only wonder how the whole Israel/Palestine mess will be solved. It will certainly go down in history as one of the most difficult and complicated situations of all time.
3  10:51pm 19/05/04        
Back with a Vengeance
It will only be solved when we either kill or relocate the entire Palestinian Population.
4  11:28pm 19/05/04        
Blink If You Can Hear Me
Oh boy...
OS: In a world of bon-bons, you are a twinkie.
Ahnk: God damn you, I am Count Chocula and you know it.
I'm not spending my anniversary night thumping my head against the wall. - Damalis, on Moderating TRF
Then tell him you want it harder, damnit! - Ahnk, on Damalis
5  12:47am 20/05/04        
El mas chingon!
Just let the Mexicans move in. We'll have that place taken over in no time.
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6  12:57am 20/05/04        
friend of the sleeping pill
You don't understand Ahnk. The exact square centimeter at which the missile impacted was totally empty, no word of a lie. That square centimeter just happened to be in some nice Palestinian family's living room.

That said...

The problem with me writing this sort of thing is that it tends to encourage all of you Jew-hating bastards out there who think that the Jews are trying to take over the American government and that you'll be the savior of the new left by pointing this out to everyone you meet. Wake up, retards, there aren't enough Jewish people in the world to take over central park nevermind the biggest government in the world.
Darkestsith6
7  4:48am 20/05/04        
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friend of the sleeping pill
I think I'll stay shut this time.
8  11:41pm 20/05/04        
Imperial Baron-Admiral<br><i>I am more honourable than thou!</i>
I agree with Theren. Israel was created by Mandate of Her Majesty's Government and that is that. They have every right to dispatch whomever they wish who tries to contravene the territorial integrity or national sovereignty of their State.

Glory to the Mossad.


Here endeth the lesson.
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9  1:59am 21/05/04        
El mas chingon!
1. 8:45am is too early for us to be up.
2. We are always late, we would have missed all 4 flights.
3. Pretty people on the plane distract us.
4. We would talk loudly and bring attention to ourselves.
5. With food and drinks on the plane, we would forget why we're there.
6. We talk with our hands, therefore we would have to put our weapons down.
7. We would ALL want to fly the plane.
8. We would argue and start a fight in the plane.
9. We can't keep a secret, we would have told everyone a week before doing it.
AND...
10. We would have put our country's flag on the windshield.
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10  2:09am 21/05/04        
friend of the sleeping pill
Gash was not agreeing with you Telan! It was sarcasm! Damn you!

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