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1  4:08pm 09/09/05        
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About a year before Star Wars hit theaters, there appeared a comic magazine called Marvel Preview #11, featuring the second appearance of a sci-fi hero named Star-Lord. In that story, Star-Lord coincidentally runs into one of the alien lizard-men that had killed his mother in front of him when he was a child. He swore that he would take revenge on them for the death of his mother, the driving force that lead him to eventually become Star-Lord.

Now, dig this- the alien killer was described as "Rruouthk'kar, an <b>Ariguan Sith-Lord</b>" :O

That's the one and only time he's referred to that way, because, just a few short panels later, he finds himself impaled on the business-end of Star-Lord's saber (just a regular ol' sabre), putting a quick end to that part of the tale. A few years later ('83?), a reprint of that story, "Star-Lord, the Special Edition", came out and in the accompanying article, which makes mention of Star Wars, says nothing about the "Sith" connection- probably because the word had almost no meaning in the Star Wars universe of the time.

Dictionary.com tells me only that "sith" is an archaic word meaning "since"... nothing there. Wikipedia pretty much tells me the same.

Now, to compound this odd coincidence <i>(or is it?)</i>, Chris Claremont, the man who wrote that story and is probably better know to folks here as the long-time writer of Marvel Comics' X-Men, co-wrote three novels with George Lucas! But you probably already knew that.

So...does anyone out there have any idea what the connection is there? And while we're at it, I noticed that the word "Ariguan" actually turns up on this very site!!!

It's a conspiracy, I tells ya! All kidding aside, any info on this would be greatly appreciated. Also, hi! I'm new.
2  4:22pm 09/09/05        
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Interesting.

Ariguan is the name I chose for the operational capital of the Cree'Ar, unawares that there was a Star Wars usage of the world already. So, unfortunatly, I don't have the answer that you are looking for. I can say that it is unlikely that the lizard man was a Cree'Ar... although, retrospectively, everything fits, and it would be an interesting footnote in our history.

In any case, wow. That's odd.
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3  6:40pm 09/09/05        
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I think the word derives from a peninsula called Sithonia, where it was said that the gods all got jealous of each other's power and threw large boulders at each other, killing themselves off. It was to explain the weird rock formations there.

Since the sith got jealous of each other's power and killed themselves off (except for two), it makes sense.
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4  6:41pm 09/09/05        
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Ah, the power of a search engine.


And yes, from what I understand, that's quite odd.
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5  6:31am 10/09/05        
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6  8:55am 10/09/05        
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7  11:57pm 10/09/05        
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Interesting indeed, makes sense. Sithonia.... o_O

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8  1:02pm 12/09/05        
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Master Ahnk:
Interesting.
Ariguan is the name I chose for the operational capital of the Cree'Ar, unawares that there was a Star Wars usage of the world already. So, unfortunatly, I don't have the answer that you are looking for. I can say that it is unlikely that the lizard man was a Cree'Ar... although, retrospectively, everything fits, and it would be an interesting footnote in our history.

In any case, wow. That's odd.

Actually, there is no Star Wars usage of "ariguan"- the word was used in a "Star-Lord" story, not a Star Wars one. Keep in mind that the story actually pre-dates Episode IV by about a year, so there can't be a connection to Star Wars... although, now that I think about it, Marvel Comics did produce the Star Wars comic, based on the screenplay, before the movie came out. However, Chris Claremont had absolutely nothing to do with that book.

Now, about this "Cree'Ar" business... the two major alien races in Marvel Comics' universe are the <b>Shi'ar</b> and the <b>Kree</b>. :O Sheer coincidence, of course, but I thought I'd point that out.:P
9  1:08pm 12/09/05        
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I think the word derives from a peninsula called Sithonia, where it was said that the gods all got jealous of each other's power and threw large boulders at each other, killing themselves off. It was to explain the weird rock formations there.
Since the sith got jealous of each other's power and killed themselves off (except for two), it makes sense.

Okay, this is interesting. Especially the fact that there are only two left. I'll have to look in to this further. Thanks much.
10  8:30pm 12/09/05        
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No problem.

And who says I used google? :glance
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