The Rebel Faction

Define "casual stop". You're agent basically showed up and took far too much time explaining that no one else was to hear about this, period. You also took it upon yourself to declare that the officer you spoke to was low level... but he also has access to information that would (presumably) be secure?

TNO launched a very in depth investigation into the bombing. Irregardless of whether the officer tells anyone, we're going to know you where there. Calling up the files in question would trigger a red flag of their own accord.

Part of the TNO investigation is to find out who the terrorists are, who they're working for, etc. To that end they will do everything in their power to find out. They wouldn't likely let accurate information fall into terrorist hands, would they?

What right do I have to say the information is doctored? Well, about as much right as you have to more or less define how my investigation is being run, and as much right as you have to, in one post, without my input, gain access to information that, IC, belongs to TNO.

*shrug*

Yes, I'm well aware your investigator is a fake. Why? Because TNO is running the investigation, and TNO knows they didn't assign anyone from ISB to go down there and get the documents.

You're to be comended for trying to use Intel actively in an RP, but you're giving yourself far more power than I think you would actually have. Imp. Intel is an old, galaxy spanning organization. But CIB is brand new, and they seem to have the ability to do anything.

How does CIB even know what an ISB badge looks like? Not arguing the use of a forgery, but something to keep in mind.

With regards to my posts: that's certainly acceptable, but it makes very little difference as to the direction the roleplay takes (imo). I'm well aware its perfectly legal under the rules, but you are interfering with a plotted takeover, and to be perfectly honest, I don't like it. If I was invading a planet outright it might be fun, but this is something far more subtle, and you're entering the picture, seemingly, with all the cards. Your agents get into Contruum effortlessly, they get their hands on Imperial documents effortlessly... what's next?

If you didn't want the Coalition interfering, you shouldn't be doing bad things.

That is, perhaps, the singular most ludicrous thing I've ever read on TRF.

Okay, maybe not. But it's up there.

This an RPG. TRF exists, first are foremost, for the enjoyment of people who like to write. People like to plot out stories and see them played out to their conclusions. As I said, there's certainly nothing stopping anyone from intefering in a planetary takeover RP, but by the same token there is a reason it doesn't happen on a large scale.

It's called respect. For the most part, people on TRF have enough respect for one another to allow them to construct their stories - irregarldess of whether they're 'good' or 'bad' guys - because they don't want to mess up someone else's writing.

You seem to have no qualms about doing so. I notice you even went so far as to post in Simon's RP, which is not a takeover and (thus) can be called open or closed. The general rule of thumb is that unless specifically stated, an RP is closed.

Granted, again, we can't really tell you you're not allowed to post in our RPs (takeovers, at any rate). But you don't see TNO entering into every roleplay the Coalition does at the expense of your writing. We've allowed you to expand and grow as you please, by and large. TNO could easily have interfered and stopped every GC takeover in the last six months, but we haven't. In fact, the only takeover I recall TNO interfering with (ever) is the Roche Asteroid Field, and only on solid IC grounds of strategic interest. Not "because you're our enemy".

In the interest in allowing you to write, expand, etc. Out of respect for your right and (presumably) desire to write a decent story.

In saying "I can and will try to mess up every single thing you do" you show (to me) an utter and complete selfishness and lack of respect. You're putting your group above TRF in trying to make the GC better at the expense of other people's writing.

I'm not going to utter any idle threats, but I can say if you desire to interfere in all of our RPs you can expect the same in kind.

*shrug*

As to your points: why would the ISB be so secretive, going so far as to say "don't tell anyone, not even the ISB"... but still have to go through a grunt to get the information they desired? Why would a guard have access to high-level information anyway? Would he realistically give this information out willy nilly without checking the "agent's" authorization with his superior?

You're access to information seems far too easy. And this seems to be a problem with all your CIB RPs - your agents have access to information with no clear way as to how they got it. You can say "they lied to a guard", but you don't address the multitude of other factors.

I have no problem with you stealing the list of people, or whatever, but you got away with it pretty damn easily. Too easily, imo.

With regards to the passage of time: the Stalwart was being prepared to depart before your post. If you'll notice, it leaves Yaga Minor three hours after Kyoto and Trinity discuss the documents, which presumably happened some hours before.

If you have anything to be done in the interim, then let it happen. But when the ship arrives at Contruum 6, it falls under attack. I doubt your CIB has enough influence to alter something like that... but you never know.

I never, ever said you weren't allowed to interfere in takeovers. The old rules expressly allowed it, in fact. I said it was not a common occurence because people generally put story ahead of group interests. That means that people don't interfere in takeovers because they recognize that someone is writing a story. It's not writing in a vacuum - that same person might have three other threads with multiple people involved. But at the same time they might like to pursue a story on their own.

*shrug*

Generally, I don't have a problem with people intefering in TNO's takeovers. It can make them more exciting. Ironically, it also makes them easier, as having something to respond to makes 5000 words go a lot quicker, but I digress...

But this isn't Dolash occasionally interfering in a takeover, this is you entering all of TNO's threads unannounced and univited. Most of us probably would be open to your ideas, etc. if you discussed them with us beforehand... but you just jump right in.

Again, nothing wrong with that under the rules, but it does throw storylines around.

I'd also argue your idea that it makes sense for the GC to do so... I don't think it does. If the GC continues to attack TNO through intel, from an IC standpoint TNO is liable to just say "fuck this", and go wipe out the CIB. Certainly it makes sense for you to take some action, but taking constant action is essentially an invitation for TNO to crush you.

That's not an OOC threat or anything, just my IC perception. Likewise. TNO doesn't really see the GC as a major enough threat to curb their expansion in any significant way... Roche was an exception because of its strategic location. It was purely an IC motivation to interfere there, and I think that's well laid out in the RP.

Your interference, to me, looked like you were doing it for the hell of it. Mostly because you just seem to toss some CIB guys in and say "now they're doing stuff". With Contruum, you really just sent some troops in to get information... I didn't (and still don't) see any real point in such, because TNO is going to conquer the planet in the end (as I'm sure we both know).

I understand (now) your motivation... but at the time it looked like "wtf is Dolash doing this for?". That's the same impression I got from your post in Kraken's takeover. I think you need a more concrete IC reason to interfere in a takeover (my own opinion). Saying "the GC would try and stop TNO" is pretty lame, if you ask me. Sure, they might try... but they really don't have the power to do so, and they know it. And doing so might be an invitation for a TNO attack. Would they really put up a futile fight at the cost of their own people and government?

And really, TNO isn't all that bad - a few of the worlds we've taken we've crushed, but mostly the takeovers don't involve a lot of innocents getting slaughtered. And there's no doubt that it is stable and lawful on an Imperial planet...

Finally, just an FYI: I haven't been ignoring you (per say) on AIM. But when I'm "away", even if I'm posting, it means I don't have the time to get into any kind of significant discussion. I don't answer because if I do, I'm liable to get into just that sort of discussion and miss something I was supposed to be doing... or in this case, let my cookies burn.

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And really, TNO isn't all that bad

eh?

You do know you're part of the Empire Demos?....you do realise the Empire is evil right?

...has anyone told him about this?, (he seems a little confused...)

Seriously Demos, I'm starting to think you believe your own propaganda.

hahahahaha its a game.