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1  1:44am 23/06/04        
Return of the King of the Cafe!
So I'm going along on my merry internet way, when I come across this:

[url="http://www.altpr.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=208&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0"]http://www.altpr.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=208&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0[/url]

The most important part being the quote of Bill O'Reilly:

O'REILLY: Because look ... when 2 percent of the population feels that you're doing them a favor, just forget it, you're not going to win. You're not going to win. And I don't have any respect by and large for the Iraqi people at all. I have no respect for them. I think that they're a prehistoric group that is -- yeah, there's excuses.


Sure, they're terrorized, they've never known freedom, all of that. There's excuses. I understand. But I don't have to respect them because you know when you have Americans dying trying to you know institute some kind of democracy there, and 2 percent of the people appreciate it, you know, it's time to -- time to wise up. And this teaches us a big lesson, that we cannot intervene in the Muslim world ever again. What we can do is bomb the living daylights out of them, just like we did in the Balkans. Just as we did in the Balkans. Bomb the living daylights out of them. But no more ground troops, no more hearts and minds, ain't going to work.

I don't believe this guy. I have never heard from him, however, I have heard of him, and now I'm just terrified of the guy!

I mean, let me get this straight. The mission failed, and I could go into the specifics of whose fault that was and why, but lets' just imagine for a second it failed because the Iraqis were - as Mr. O'Reilly seems to feel - freedom-haters who didn't give a rats ass about the sacrifice of Americans. In this sort of a setting, O'Reilly thinks the best thing to do is bomb and kill them as long as the Americans want. Why?? Why the hell?? I mean, if he's for pulling out and no more interventions, I can see several logical reasons why. And If he was for sticking it out, I can see the train of thought that would lead to that too. But someone who thinks they should leave so no more Americans die, yet continue to kill muslims indiscriminately.

But why? To what end? If you're not there to rebuild the country, or even to loot and conquer it, why even bother killing them? Are they a threat still? They're already the third world and bombed to hell, I don't see how they could be threatening, but even if they were, is violence the only answer? It just seems so pointless. Stop the fighting, leave them where they are, but for Gods' sake don't stop bombing the place. Why?
2  2:11am 23/06/04        
Internaut
I think he's saying something like the following: Bomb us, and we'll bomb your country until there's nothing left, and then we'll let you pick up the pieces.
3  2:26am 23/06/04        
Return of the King of the Cafe!
...So...

...Wait...

So he thinks that because fifteen Saudies, at the behest of Osama (who used to be based in Afghanistan) caused 9/11, America would be justified in killing - in turn - a load of civilians in countries from vaguely the same region?? But thats' a horrible idea! A terrible one!

For one, that does not take into account why you were attacked. Do you know why? Will bombing help it? I doubt so. Also, it will drive locals to side with the terrorists. I mean, when you're starving and being bombed to death by a faraway country, its' hard to look at the "Big picture".

Secondly, it will kill a lot of innocent people. Sure, 9/11 killed a lot of innocent people, but then it was declared that 9/11 was a terrible act of murder, and terrible acts of murder do not justify similar acts being forced on other people to make it better. And besides, are the people in any way related to the terror attacks? I doubt any of the people Bill wants to bomb were even aware that the attacks were going to take place, much less that they could do anything about it. At the very least, you shouldn't be lowering yourself to their level.

Lastly, why the country? Don't you realize that if you destroy a country and its' infrastructure, it immeadietly becomes very hard to survive for the people in said country? What are they supposed to do? Pick up the pieces? Why should they have to do that? These people are not directly, or even indirectly responsible for the terror attacks, and yet because someone else not really connceted to them killed a lot of people THEY have to suffer? Where is the moral highground now?
4  2:57am 23/06/04        
Dis aliter visum. <br>IQ Rating: 140
Dolash, I still want to adopt you.
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5  3:06am 23/06/04        
The Emperor<br> Almighty Bastard
Lol
6  3:06am 23/06/04        
The Emperor<br> Almighty Bastard
I fucking hate this capilatization prevention crap.
7  3:07am 23/06/04        
Internaut
*shrugs*

Maybe you should email Mr. O'Reilly. Mention your age, and he might even read your letter on his show.
8  3:16am 23/06/04        
Return of the King of the Cafe!
Samantha Koortyn:
Dolash, I still want to adopt you.
...? Um, thats' nice. A little odd, but still very nice of you.
9  3:16am 23/06/04        
Internaut
I can turn the caps thing off.
10  3:33am 23/06/04        
fuck that duck
I think he's saying something like the following: Bomb us, and we'll bomb your country until there's nothing left, and then we'll let you pick up the pieces.
Kas. Please. Even you must agree that this guy is fucking nuts.
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