The Rebel Faction

If he even gets around to stepping down... you know, like the Chancellor? Woooo...

Would the "Second American Civil War" be called Civ II? There could be licence issues.

I think they actually signed a treaty about no warships in the Great Lakes since then. It wasn't a very good campaign either. The British rocked at first when the US navy had like two ships. And then the US built a lot of ships while the Brits sat on their asses. That campaign of course created Oliver Hazzard Perry who became very famous though if the Brits were slightly smarter and actually wanted to win the war they could've kicked his ass.

And you only burned down the Parliament Buildings of Upper Canada in York, current Toronto. The main Parliament Buildings in Quebec stayed safe and sound.

The British Empire won because the US tried to take over Canada. Status Quo is still a victory for the defender.

And the force-conscripting along with the blockade of French ports stopped in late 1812 or early 1813. The US just continued the war until the end of 1814 for some reason I forget.

And Canada has had 4 Rebellions two of them were while it was still a member of the British Empire. It's just that they were all glorified bar brawls that nobody knows about them. Not like the US. When they go about getting civil wars they don't go half-assed.

EDIT: I thought I logged out. This is Jan.

Yeah I'll admit it was a tie. Well for Canada and the US. The people who lost were the Native Americans.

The Lower Canada Rebellion of 1837 was a bit more than a glorified bar brawl. It just didn't last long as after they got their success in an actually gun battle they got slaughtered. And like the.

And the treaty banning naval ships on the Great Lakes was the Rush-Baggot treaty (or something like that I think) but I'm also pretty sure it wasn't until around 30 years after the war. For some reason 1846 rings a bell. Right around the time that the treaty between the US and Britain over Oregon Country and giving the south half to the US, north part staying in British hands.

oooooooh....

I'm having this same exact discussion on six other boards right now

My two cents, and I'll copy exactly what I said from the other boards (only one quote right now)

Under the US Constitution.

It is Unconstituional to be in the United States of America illegally, further more, hiring illegal immigrants is against the law. However, the justice system refuse's to reconize the US Constitution now and further more, they refuse to take action against illegal immigrants

But thats just the tip of the ice-barg

The primary problem is that legal citizens are just NOW waking up and realizing that this illegal immigration problem. The militia currently on the texas and Arizona borders, that group has realized that the current crop of illegal aliens (From Mexico) are causing a great deal of problems

Let me list:

1. They pretty much forced out weak government to force teach hispanic (it's not spanish, hispanic and spanish are two completely different languges, and don't bother argueing this. As I've already talked to a few friends from spain and a few from Mexico *both legal* and both agree that the two languages are different)

2. They can be hired for low wages, making it so that the employer gets five times more money than if he had hired someone who has a bachlors or associates

3. 90% of illegal immigrants don't speak english, and 80% REFUSE to assimilate into our culture

4. In addition: Those illegal immigrants don't have to worry about citizenship for there children, thanks to the student law here all children born are automatically legal, even IF born from illegal parents

I wish we had a system like that in Japan, where a child doesn't become legal till age five (got that information from my martial arts sensei who lived in japan for the first twenty five years of his life)

Firstly, I believe that the border patrol should receive a huge injection of funds with which to beef up security and build some sort of real fencline along our southern border. They should also receive permission shoot people attempting to cross the border illegally. Yes, I said shoot. Maybe you could rubber-bullet them, or something, but IMO the crossing should stop.

Secondly, our immigration system should be worked over to allow guest workers to enter and work more easily, if they wish. I'm not too up on what goes on with immigration as it is though, so I'm just talking here. People say it's difficult, so make it easier. We need cheap labor to work the fields.

Thirdly, people who hire illegal immigrants should be receiving their fines. No hiring without proper documentation.

Fourth, current immigrants should be able to apply for papers. If you're caught without papers ship'm to a facility. Check to see if they've applied, if not, ship'm back. There ought to be a mercy time, dunno how long, but some amount of time so people can have a chance to file for papers. They're here, they might as well get with the program.

English. Primary language. Period. If I immigrate to mexico I'll learn Hispanic. If I immigrate to Canada I'll learn Canadanese. If you move to America, you learn American English.

Fourth, members of the judicial system who are unwilling to enforce the law (constitution) need to be removed from office. Maybe taken out back and shot. Dunno. No room for that kind of shite, at all. Judges enforce the law. They do not make it. Handing down bench law should be grounds for .... judicial excommunication. Declothment. Whatever they call it.



Ironically I had a conversation about this previously as well. As I read my post I see I'm a bit wound up.