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Kach Thorton
21  10:11pm 15/05/09        
He only watches soccer for the riots
I disagree with your perceptions of Bush's motivations. Here's how I see it.

September 11. --> Al Quaeda --> Afghanistan --> We find out Al Quaeda is in Iraq and Saddam who used to have WMDs is now refusing to let UN inspectors into his countries labs. --> Department of Defense concludes Al Quaeda is working to obtain WMDs from Saddam (whose WMDs we now know were destroyed in the late 1990s for unknown reasons) --> Saddam still refuses weapons inspectors access after we call him out on it--> Invasion!
"Beff Pike":
Every time a nub grows up an icon dies.
So thanks, Kach - you killed David Carradine!
 
"Omnae":
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"NIF. But I will find them! I am god like that." Kach Thorton speaks up.
Beff Pike
22  12:45am 16/05/09        
Bounty Hunter
Kach, I cannot believe you have such a simplified perspective. I do not know if it is willful ignorance or if you have just somehow slept through the past years.
Gaven13
23  1:17am 16/05/09        
Dark Jedi
Kach, I understand your reasoning much better than you might think. I'm only recently discharged from the US Army, and I was in both Iraq and Afghanistan. I know what went on there--and I also know that Bush had next to no reason to invade that country. On our advance, the Imperial guard fled or surrendered in mass numbers. They knew the USA was out for blood, and we got it, alright--at the cost of thousands of US Lives.
Gro
24  2:13am 16/05/09        
The Slothful Padawan
Kach Thorton:
September 11. --> Al Quaeda --> Afghanistan --> We find out Al Quaeda is in Iraq and Saddam who used to have WMDs is now refusing to let UN inspectors into his countries labs. --> Department of Defense concludes Al Quaeda is working to obtain WMDs from Saddam (whose WMDs we now know were destroyed in the late 1990s for unknown reasons) --> Saddam still refuses weapons inspectors access after we call him out on it--> Invasion!

Inspectors were in Iraq before the invasion. In fact, they had to be evacuated. It's why the UN didn't endorse the invasion.

Edit: Richard Butler and his inspectors had to leave Iraq after it being 'highly suggested' by the US on December 14th, the day before bombing began. In their report they said:

"the majority of the inspections of facilities and sites under the ongoing monitoring system were carried out with Iraq's cooperation"
Park Kraken
25  8:35am 16/05/09        
Back with a Vengeance
September 11. --> Al Quaeda --> Afghanistan --> We find out Al Quaeda is in Iraq and Saddam who used to have WMDs is now refusing to let UN inspectors into his countries labs. --> Department of Defense concludes Al Quaeda is working to obtain WMDs from Saddam (whose WMDs we now know were destroyed in the late 1990s for unknown reasons) --> Saddam still refuses weapons inspectors access after we call him out on it--> Invasion!

Got any proof to back up the highlighted sections? It was my understanding that Al-Qaede didn't show up on the scene until the waning days of the invasion, and that the initial resistance was initiated by the former Baath Party officials.

However, the one good thing that did come out of the Iraq invasion, other than getting rid of Saddam, would be drawing Al-Qaede's attention largely away from the American homeland, and turning popular Iraqian opinion in favour to against for the terroist group, as well as confirming for the general populace that Iran is indeed an anti-Western nation for those who had any lingering doubts.
Wilkar
26  2:05pm 16/05/09        
Commonwealth Patriot&lt;br>Get your damn hands off me,&lt;br>you filthy Kuati drunk!
Park Kraken:

However, the one good thing that did come out of the Iraq invasion, other than getting rid of Saddam, would be drawing Al-Qaede's attention largely away from the American homeland, and turning popular Iraqian opinion in favour to against for the terroist group, as well as confirming for the general populace that Iran is indeed an anti-Western nation for those who had any lingering doubts.

Yeah, I'm sure Iraq loves the U.S. for all of those reasons too.
Park Kraken
27  9:26pm 16/05/09        
Back with a Vengeance
I never said anything about what or who the Iraqians would love. I think the Iraqians would love to be left totally alone at the moment.
Beff Pike
28  12:15am 17/05/09        
Bounty Hunter
It's "Iraqi" dumbass.

Iraqian? I mean... c'mon!

And people who live in the good old US are called USites.

Also, previous to the US invasion of Iraq (the second time around) Saddam had the highest approval rating of his so called career as a tyrant and the quality of life in Iraq was at an all time high. I'm not supporting the guy, he's a douche... but so was the guy who decided to invade his country... an action that every media outlet calls "war" but that the administration stubbornly called a "police action"... I remeber the last time that happened, I can still hear the whop-whop of the choppers, the wailing monkeys and the gleeful cries of the men on the log ride.
Park Kraken
29  3:01am 17/05/09        
Back with a Vengeance
Leave it to a Canadine to set me straight. :p
Beff Pike
30  1:20pm 17/05/09        
Bounty Hunter
I will feed you to the rancor.

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