The Rebel Faction

I think there is a difference of opinions as to what the Force actually is. To call it a hammer and a tool is not quite what it appears to be portrayed as, at least from the perspective of the films. It is true that the Force provides power, to be used in various ways by the individual, but at the same time it seems above the individual - people can control the Force, but the Force also controls them. That's why there are prophecies and visions. That's why Jedi say to 'Trust in the Force.' I do not trust in a hammer, and the Force is much more then that.

An important bit of this which I think some might be missing is that the Jedi Corps appear different because they obey a body - a highly rutheless, paranoid, and Orwellian body - that will give them orders they will follow, and they will follow these orders above the Force.

We have all heard in the movies and read in the books about the Will of the Force, and the Jedi's wisdom came from divining this will and seeking to enact it for the benefit of all. However, although the Jedi Corps might believe they are supporting their ideals, they use the power of the force while not obeying it. They don't obey it's light or dark side, they don't obey it as a whole, they use it to do what the Empire tells them and nothing more. They take without giving anything back.

The Force, as portrayed by the films and the novels, IS a semi-conscious entity that connects all life, almost on the edge of life itself. The Jedi Corps do not form a symbiotic relation with the Force, as they use without return. They will hurt the Force, and the ramnifications of shattering the Force's power would be great.

I appeal to you all now on two fronts:

1) The writing front, whereby this would be an amazing story that could even be part of the Star Wars main plot, tying in how one Sith's mad ambition spawned an Empire that could possibly - through devotion to his lies - now destroy the Force. This sort of story could be amazingly entertaining and certainly at least plausible.

2) The Star Wars front, because this is the sort of thing that happens in Star Wars, and frankly it appears to me as the sort of thing that would happen if a government (even inadvertently) ended up trying to take control of the Force, weakening it's flow and thus the flow of life.

Lastly, I'd like to say that it could be handled in a way where those who don't want to participate wouldn't have to, where the effects would only be felt by those involved, and that the outcome could be anything so don't be against it just because you fear it might jeprodize your plans or assets. I'd really like to try this, so isn't there some way it can be done? It seems to make so much sense.

A very articulate arguement Dolash.


Perhaps a starting point from CUSWE:




[font=Arial]An energy that occurs naturally in the galaxy, it springs from all forms of life. It has two "sides," a good side and a Dark Side, although this is a great oversimplification of the Force's existence. The Jedi Knights believed that the Force had many sides, including a living element and a unifying element, and it binds all things together in a great web of existence. In this way, the Jedi saw the Force as its own end. The modern Sith, while acknowledging that they learned of the Force through the Dark Side teachings of the ancient Sith, simply saw the singular power of the Force, which to them was a means to an end. The Jedi Knights discovered that the Force was accessible to all living beings through the presence of midi-chlorians in their cells. The more midi-chlorians that inhabited a being's cells, the more the being was able to contact the Force. However, a high concentration of midi-chlorians did not guarantee a being control of the Force. Only through intense study and dedicated training could a being become proficient in harnessing the power of The Force. The Jedi Council discovered that younger beings had an easier time of learning the techniques required to touch and control the Force, and eventually developed a system that actively sought out and identified beings with high midi-chlorian counts at their birth. With, or sometimes without, the permission of the parents, the Jedi took children no more than one year old away for training. Children and older beings, who had already established a set pattern of mental and physical usage, often were unable to complete the necessary training, and were deemed too wasteful of Jedi resources. The Jedi Knights have historically been the most powerful users of The Force, having trained with and learned the three basic techniques: control (the manipulation of one's internal Force strength), sense (detection of the Force in the external world), and alter (manipulation of matter with the Force). These techniques, used by themselves or in combination, allow the Jedi to perform many different activities with the Force. The Sith, on the other hand, gained strength from the Force by focusing their emotional energies - especially strong emotions like anger and hatred - which gave the quick mastery but didn't take much discipline. During the Yuuzhan Vong invasion of the galaxy, some twenty-five years after the Battle of Endor, the foundations on which the Jedi Knights based their knowledge of the Force were suddenly altered. There were several forms of life - primarily the ysalamiri of Myrkr - which could push back against the Force, but these creatures were assumed to live within the Force in some fashion. The Yuuzhan Vong, however, appeared as a void in the Force, neither projecting nor absorbing or repelling it. Many of the new Jedi Order struggled with the concept of a race of beings which seemed to lack any contact with the Force, since it was believed that the Force was contained within all forms of life, even if it was in trace amounts. Jacen Solo was one of the first Jedi to discover that the Force acted in many ways, without a true light or dark side, and that there were ways in which it could be attuned to at least recognize the alien invaders. The former Jedi Knight Vergere was instrumental in guiding Jacen to this realization, having spent more than thirty years in their presence. After the surrender of the Yuuzhan Vong at Coruscant some five years after their invasion began, Jedi Master Master Skywalker contemplated his new understanding of the Force. It was not a simple delineation between light and dark, but a more profound definition of the ways in which good and evil fight for control of an individual. Ultimately, he chose not to return the Jedi to their roles as an unbiased police force. Luke reasoned that the Jedi Knights of the Old Republic were once a meditative order that was drawn deeper and deeper into the machinations of the Republic when its Chancellors called for their help in mediating disputes. As this call for help escalated into the battle legions of the Clone Wars, the Jedi became less interested in the nature of the Force and more interested in separating good and evil into light and dark halves to the Force. The Jedi of the Old Republic, according to Skywalker, lost sight of the fact that the Force moved through an individual, not from them. [/font]

Again, I stand firm with Dolash, and I agree with his whole 'only those who want involved'. After all, those who don't want to get involved, can just say they were fortunate enough to avoid the blow. But those who want in, they can get involved.

Besides, I say it'll be great writting.

They are not using the Force in any sort of "gray area". They are using the Light Side of the Force to aide their ideals.

and wow, that is entirely NOT how simon and i visualized the jedi corps

Not to mention Irtar's problem would resurface more terrible than as a child. Actually... yeah. This idea keeps sounding more and more cool and the RP possibilities are just on the rise.