The Rebel Faction

(shurgs)in all my years of using windows, I've never had a problem, not one virus, or crashs, its always been stable for me.

all the security is horribly exaggerated. It only comes on when I'm installing something new or moving some files, but after that it doesn't. So what's the big deal? you use up a few seconds before installing a program and never hear of it ever again after the install. To me that's nothing. Plus you can turn that secrity off and never worry about it.

Explorer works just like before. right click the start button and click on explorer and find all your programs there. I did from the first minute I loaded the OS. my learning curve was like 20 seconds

Rob Stellar:

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all the security is horribly exaggerated. It only comes on when I'm installing something new or moving some files, but after that it doesn't. So what's the big deal? you use up a few seconds before installing a program and never hear of it ever again after the install. To me that's nothing. Plus you can turn that secrity off and never worry about it.

Which must do wonders for your computers, er, security...
The problem I've heard raised time and time again with Vista's "Security" is that it asks you to approve something, but never actually tells you what you're approving. If you double click an .exe file, chances are you want it installed.

And all it requires is that you click "Accept". Contrast that to OSX, where the authentication dialog comes up when you're changing system settings or system files, and requires you to actually input your password.

My only comment about Vista is I hate those fucking ads that come and eat half my screen everytime I try to check the news.

Holding out as long as I can. I do plan on building a new rig in the spring though, with the intent of it being a somewhat high-end gaming rig, and I'd like DX10 support when I do get it pieced together and the new compatible games (UT 2007, Crysis, BioShock, etc) finally come out. That'll require a Vista upgrade I suppose.

The Irtarded:

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ZoneAlarm.
Know it. Love it.

And you can't build drivers off of specs. You need the code they use.

Zone Alarm used to be good but it now utter shit, much like Norton and Mcafee. NOD32 and AVG are both far superior, particularly NOD32. The Windows Firewall is better than Zone Alarm.

And you can't build drivers off of specs. You need the code they use.

You need the specs, and you need a test environment, but you certainly don't need the code. You need to follow the very technical spec of the driver model and the associate APIs your driver will talk to.

Which must do wonders for your computers, er, security...
The problem I've heard raised time and time again with Vista's "Security" is that it asks you to approve something, but never actually tells you what you're approving. If you double click an .exe file, chances are you want it installed.

And all it requires is that you click "Accept". Contrast that to OSX, where the authentication dialog comes up when you're changing system settings or system files, and requires you to actually input your password.

I sort of agree with this. It does tell you which file is asking to perform which action, but I do prefer it was more like MacOS X or *NIX. SUDO would be nice for the elevated security.

lmao! thats the funniest thing I've heard so far this year!

Really? XP is pretty decent, with the exception of the security model. A wide range of hardware and software are well supported. The environment itself is very stable. I see no issue with calling it "Solid"