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131 11:40pm 25/10/06

fuck that duck

I'm not going to go through the X-wing series and look up page numbers for you, neverminding the fact that they're 4000km from me. The entire series has starfighters shooting missiles at capital ships.

Yes, Jan, you can quote the EGWT all you like. My point is there are other canon sources that contradict what it says. And canon "primary sources", as it were - the EG is very much a "secondary source" compared to the novels themselves.

With regards to partical shields themselves, my point was to compare the "always-on" partical shields to "combat shields" - that is, the high powered shields designed to protect a ship from laser fire. Always-on partical shields are, like I said, not designed to stop high explosive warheads. Combat shields, arguably, are.

I am not going to discuss the Surveyor. Suffice to say, it is capable of detecting your fighters. I would much rather play the game than argue the technical possibilities of whether one made up ship can detect another made up ship.

[size=1]"So the woman asked me what I wanted on the sandwich and I said I do not care it is for a duck, and she was like oh then it's free. I was not aware that ducks eat for free at Subway. It's like give me a chicken fajita sub, but don't worry about ringing it up, it is for a duck.”
-Mitch Hedberg
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Kach Thorton

132 11:44pm 25/10/06

He only watches soccer for the riots

Posted. Both shortened, and I have refraned from engaging the surface weaponry or launching any sort of strike... yet.

However...

"As I've already explained, they were left over by the Galactic Empire when they left the planet."

The Empire woudl have never, ever left standing usable planetary defenses on a planet they abandoned. The weapons would have been destroyed either by bombardment by fleeing ships or making the reactor go critical.

Why, do you ask? Because they're the Empire. They wouldn't leave them, they'd help their enemys. At least by destroying them they force their enemys to buy new ones, an enormous cost, to say the least.

So, where did you get your turbolasers?

"Beff Pike":
Every time a nub grows up an icon dies.
So thanks, Kach - you killed David Carradine!

"Omnae":
"What? What? Where are the nipples?" enters Seth Vinda.

"NIF. But I will find them! I am god like that." Kach Thorton speaks up.

Demosthenes X

133 12:26am 26/10/06

fuck that duck

Just so I'm clear, posting order goes:

Trinity
Corise (responding to both TNO posts, which is pretty weird)
Kach
Kraken

Correct?

[size=1]"So the woman asked me what I wanted on the sandwich and I said I do not care it is for a duck, and she was like oh then it's free. I was not aware that ducks eat for free at Subway. It's like give me a chicken fajita sub, but don't worry about ringing it up, it is for a duck.”
-Mitch Hedberg
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Jan Dondana

134 1:09am 26/10/06

Minister of Defence

I still protest the fact that you managed to destroy "several Corvettes and Light Cruisers" in one post (well actually like 3 lines really). And that despite that in Corise's first post, he RPed the fleet firing ONE long-ranged volley and retreating, coming into contact with Kraken's fleet, where he launches only 1 other volley and then retreats, yet somehow you describe him as trading volleys for "several minutes" (or that is my understanding). And that you cleared the minefield without saying how you did it and with apparently no losses. Somewherein there you had to suffer some damage. Somehow. Or at least provide some detail on how you did your damage.

Kach Thorton

135 1:11am 26/10/06

He only watches soccer for the riots

Without his fancy KIBC to home him in, it would take several miniutes to calculate a jump. I have five Astruses, and a multitude of smaller ships. Each astrus carries 6 STLs, each as powerful as a planetary defense turbolaser. FIred into the bulk of an enemy fleet, even wildly, woudl do quite a bit of damage to smaller capital ships which woudl be vaporized by a single strike. Even if he just fired and fled, the random firings woudl hit something.

As for the mines, I will go and edit my post now to give me some damage. And to put a group of minesweepers sweeping gaps through it now in case I must retreat. I dont' want to have a "Teth" pulled on me, do I?

"Beff Pike":
Every time a nub grows up an icon dies.
So thanks, Kach - you killed David Carradine!

"Omnae":
"What? What? Where are the nipples?" enters Seth Vinda.

"NIF. But I will find them! I am god like that." Kach Thorton speaks up.

Demosthenes X

136 1:17am 26/10/06

fuck that duck

While Kach's post is very vauge about exactly what happened between the two fleets...

DOES IT MATTER?

This is not old TRF. This is not "oh, you blew up one of my imaginary ships, you must have cheated, let's spend 40 pages bickering about it!" TRF.

This is a TRF that is built on storywriting. Kach's fleet is several times the size of Corise's and, as stated, has some very powerful weapons contained therein.

Granted, Corise was not given proper time to respond... but you're effectively arguing that a much more powerful fleet is incapable of destroying a handful of light, imaginary ships? I would expect a Astrus could reduce a Blockade Runner to a gutted hulk in a single volley from her STLs!

It's not like Kach has just overrun the entire planet, doubled its defences, and had time to zip across the galaxy to appear live on "Heros of the Empire Exposed". He's destroyed some corvettes.

Excuse me if I don't feel any sympathy: the GC has argued pretty much EVERY action the Empire has made. Can I blow my nose without someone crying foul?

[size=1]"So the woman asked me what I wanted on the sandwich and I said I do not care it is for a duck, and she was like oh then it's free. I was not aware that ducks eat for free at Subway. It's like give me a chicken fajita sub, but don't worry about ringing it up, it is for a duck.”
-Mitch Hedberg
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Jan Dondana

137 1:20am 26/10/06

Minister of Defence

The problem is that Corise RPed them firing a SINGLE long range volley and retreating, not staying around for several MINUTES to trade volleys.

Kach Thorton

138 1:29am 26/10/06

He only watches soccer for the riots

As I said, a microjump does not happen instantaniously.

Corise: "Let's microjump to the other side of the system and then fire a few missiles at them."

Captain: "Very good sir. Would you like another cup of tea? By the way, the jump is already under way."

No. Nyet. Nada.

You must sit there and calculate it just like any other old hyperspace jump. They could not have calculated it before I arrived, because my ships change the grav-spacetime-whateverthehell propertys of the space around metalorn, and so while they calculated the jump I shot at them. Plain and simple. If they want to fire a SINGLE long range volly while I pummel them, his problem. Maybe he was reinforcing his shields in the face of my supiror firepower, hmm? Knew he couldn't stand up to me, so he transferred weapons energy to shields and just held on while the navicomputers calculated it?

"Beff Pike":
Every time a nub grows up an icon dies.
So thanks, Kach - you killed David Carradine!

"Omnae":
"What? What? Where are the nipples?" enters Seth Vinda.

"NIF. But I will find them! I am god like that." Kach Thorton speaks up.

Mr. Do Gooder

139 2:49am 26/10/06

The Slothful Padawan

Again I say: Most effort in taking out a food convoy ever.

Honestly, I keep seeing the thing about 'writing a good story thrown around' and blah blah blah. But it turned out with both sides pulling low blows that are unbefitting of TRF. Honestly, bad on both sides.

Corise, you should've tried to play through with your original food convoy, if you wanted to give it some escort then all well and good. But to say 'Oh, and you draw another fleet to'. A point you bring up about having sensors detecting incoming ships is likely true for theirs to, so this is just a matter of fact of wanting to win.

The same goes for TNO, if you did know 'By intelligence reports and blah blah blah the convoy and it's contents', why would you have THREE FLEETS to take it out? Again, it's a point that TNO is wanting to win.

The very fact this thread has gone on this long, with more and more bickering and evidence thrown back and forth shows it all the more.

Stop worrying about the win, start worrying about a well written story with characters and all that jazz.

Demosthenes X

140 3:26am 26/10/06

fuck that duck

Your post is good natured, so I'll keep the "get out of our thread" to a minimum.

Actually, I agree, save that you make one fatal flaw:

Only one fleet is actually intercepting the food convoy. The other two are attacking Metalorn itself.

See, Corise hit it right on when he said "only an idiot hits a convoy so close to the bulk of an enemy fleet".

And that's true, if your primary goal is the convoy.

Jan: with regards to "you did too much in one post", refer to Omnae's post earlier on in this thread.

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-Mitch Hedberg
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