The Rebel Faction

They are currently revising R&D fools. You should write your local Moderator.

1. I remember requesting to up the requirements to build a death star, due to the increasing amount of groups reaching those requirements. As for lowering the build time of it, Id be biased if I said lets go for it.

2. the 8000m rule is a build cap, I dont see it being changed for a single simple reason. Most ships in the real star wars universe NEVER made it past this length with the noteable exception of all the ships you could probobaly name. SSD's, Death Stars, ESD.... these ship types were rare and hardly built by a power that spaned the entire galaxy, millions of worlds. A group with 10 worlds shouldnt have the option to build something of similar size of their own without restriction. As far as making new things of this size, the most thats been done has been equivalents to replace the listed ships, and even then only on a case by case basis.

3. Either that non-hostile crap should be scraped, or a series of Civilian tech rules drafted, I leave this up to the community.

As R&D and build times are intended to limit combat cabilities for each faction, I don't see why any R&D or construction should be needed at all for a non-combat-capable civilian space station.

Seth, I take full responsibility for the Death Star build time. I was speaking to Theren on AIM shortly after the fleet restart, and I pointed out that with the new shipyards rules building at 100 meters per day, an Eclipse SSD took six months, which is what the Death Star build time was.

So it was bumped up to 10 months, which is certainly a long time (especcially considering you can't destroy canon planets!), but to be fair, it can destroy entire fleets single-handidly.

The same I think goes for R&D times, perhaps some could be shrunk a little.

Agreed! Personally, I think the R&D time should be directly related to the size of the ship - the length of time it takes to build it plus a fixed number of days. That would allow for a "prototype" to be "built", and a few days (five to ten, imo) for "design", keeping in mind people have already spent OOC time designing ships.

No ship design size may exceed 8000 meters.

I agree that this rule could be changed. I, personally, would love to be able to build a 12 800 meter Executor as my flagship. And with TNO's current size (80 or 90 worlds) it's not unreasonable (imo).

I could be wrong, but I believe it was a rule put in place after people built heaps of Eclipse Star Destroyers, and they changed the rules to limit power. At the time, it was probably a sensible rule - but with the way things are now, it makes little sense (imo).

I was considering suggesting changing it to "One ship of X meters+ per X number of planets", similar to the current Sovereign/Eclipse rules. People would still only be allowed to have one of those, period, but they could build Executors in addition, as long as they could support them. It would also open us up to larger R&Ds - Eclipse-sized vessels but lacking a superlaser, if someone had the ambition.

Non-hostile space stations and sensor arrays under 600 meters may be built at a rate of 500 meters per day.

I think Construction Yards on a whole need to be revamped. I've never understood why CYs have different build limits than SYs (one at a time vs. three, used to take longer to build). Defences are fine, but the rules about construction of other objects, space stations especcially, should be figured out (imo).

Though, Seth, it could be simply poorly worded: I think they might mean that CYs are ground-based, and anything larger than 600 meters is to big to launch and must be built in shipyards...?

At any rate, I think firm space-station building rules should be laid out.

Just a note, I think a set rule system for civilian desgns should be emplaced.